Curse

ArKaiN · Jun 02, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

I figured this thread would have self-destructed by now, but apparently nobody took the time to point out the obvious: In a team, the people with the lest armor need to take their asses away from aggro and leave tanking to tanks.
Yes, the build has a whole lot of problems with it, but the main problem is that it's based on the premise that elementalists cannot cause damage while kiting, which is ridiculous. This is not a "Jesus" build, here to show us all where we went wrong ("Ah yes I see, so I just sit in front of the lvl 30 warrior that attacks +33% faster and slowly cast my spells!").
Dude, seriously, learn to play an elementalist. This half-breed farming build is an abomination and will never work properly.

Mouse at Large · Jun 02, 2007, 11:32 AM // 11:32

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Originally Posted by ArKaiN

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Dude, seriously, learn to play an elementalist. This half-breed farming build is an abomination and will never work properly.

When a thread degenerates into personal abuse, it's time to shut it down. For what it's worth, I've never claimed this is the greatest build in the history of GW - I just threw it out there because it worked for me in a variety of different situations.

Check my contributions - nowhere do I claim I'm a "guru", nowhere do I belittle the other contributors. If you can't accept that I can hold a different opinion to you then so be it.

P.S my ele has 1500 hours of playtime and has all three Protector titles. I've used all 4 skill lines and a variety of combos with secondaries. I don't claim this gives me special insight or that my opinions have more validity than anyone else's as I'm continuously learning, but I like to think I've picked up a few reasonable strategies.

Pace and goodnight.

Thom Bangalter · Jun 02, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01

build's ok-la when you only have like 4 guys, except for stoneflesh, which is questionable (I guess the monk needs to lrn2prot) but for areas that allow 6 or 8, this build has a huge lack of searing flames.

Then I read this:

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Oh lol yes, I love kiting. I contribute soooo much to a team while I'm frantically running around avoiding all the nasties.........

and realized that you're bad. So anyway, I guess you need to learn fundamental aspects of the game before you post amongst people that seem, for the most part, to have a grasp on it. I reccomend www.gwonline.net if you want to continue to be bad at the game. GL and merry adventuring!

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Originally Posted by Strangelove

6)Don't mess with mark of rodgort unless you're a SF ele or your team has fire weapons. There really are better things to do then wand someone for the burning damage.

It's actually ok damage if you're spamming fireball on cycle and hitting a lot of bunched up mobs, as the skill has been reworked continually to the point that it almost needs a nerf for pvp. It continues to do damage as you wait for recharges and cast times, so you can maintain DPS between casting. It also turns your fireballs into cheaper rodgorts invocations, which is pretty fun. I'm not a huge fan of DoTs in pve, as they tend to scatter mobs, but there's no real point in running mind blast in parties with multiple eles to begin with.

Skye Marin · Jun 03, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

I find Mind Blast to be unreliable in PvE as a source of Energy regeneration. A pair of two lightning drakes have recently been recorded to use at least 30 Mind Shocks and 25 Lightning orbs before a solo farmer was able to finally kill them with condition degen. Monster energy pools can be massive.

ArKaiN · Jun 03, 2007, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by Mouse at Large

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P.S my ele has 1500 hours of playtime
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Then you should try another class, because clearly experience doesn't teach you anything.

On this build.

Dr Strangelove · Jun 03, 2007, 05:44 AM // 05:44

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

I find Mind Blast to be unreliable in PvE as a source of Energy regeneration. A pair of two lightning drakes have recently been recorded to use at least 30 Mind Shocks and 25 Lightning orbs before a solo farmer was able to finally kill them with condition degen. Monster energy pools can be massive.

I've found that they always have energy pools around the maximum for their class, and it's almost always full. Thus, mind blast will pretty much always work on everything but an ele if you're careful with it. If all else fails, you should have a +30/-1 regen set to pull out.

Evilsod · Jun 03, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Well the eles have 20 in Energy Storage so will have a minimum of about 110 energy anyway.

The only time you should ever use Mind Blast if it your in a team with no other hero/human eles. Its useless compared to Searing Flames. On its own SF is debatable... but in packs its obviously not.

Stoneflesh sucks anyway... the enemies hit for well over 30 damage, even the wanding.

Whats with all the ward hate anyway? If you have 2 SF ele thats 2-4 wards or 2 wards and an Aegis. Aegis can be shattered, drained, stripped. Wards just rely on the hench staying inside them, which happens alot. Except Alesia anyway...

Div · Jun 03, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18

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Originally Posted by Mouse at Large

Oh lol yes, I love kiting. I contribute soooo much to a team while I'm frantically running around avoiding all the nasties.........

Because you're contributing so much to the team when half your bar is pure emanagement or defense...

If you take out stoneflesh aura and put another damage skill or ward in, this build might be barely salvageable...maybe

And I could careless if you've logged 1500 hours on it. I've heard people who said they've logged 2000+ hours on a warrior and yet they claim mending with healing breeze is the perfect skill combo for helping them survive. Mending's leet, but that's besides the point...